we are all sick of war.
let there be peace.
"Better than a thousand hollow words is one word that brings peace." buddha
make love, not war
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmkAuTQ8Sc4 john lennon sings make love not war
"If there is to be peace in the world,
There must be peace in the nations.
If there is to be peace in the nations,
There must be peace in the cities.
If there is to be peace in the cities,
There must be peace between neighbors.
If there is to be peace between neighbors,
There must be peace in the home.
If there is to be peace in the home,
There must be peace in the heart.
— Lao Tzu (570-490
B.C.)
Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of God.
— Matthew, V:9
claude has started a "chain of peace"
http://my.opera.com/holdowicz-claude/blog/about-peace-and-artists
http://my.opera.com/MAJULIE/blog/2009/05/10/la-paix-sur-terre
http://my.opera.com/Virgilia/blog/chain
http://my.opera.com/yulenka/blog/show.dml/3239607
http://my.opera.com/solzinho/blog/2009/05/14/paz-para-a-ra
http://my.opera.com/%20Liu/blog/2009/05/14/beauty-is-around-everywhere
http://my.opera.com/Villain/blog/2009/05/13/478-chain-for-peace-in-the-world
http://my.opera.com/robertsglyn1/blog/show.dml/3256797
here's one way to move in the direction of peace… helping families in need. :up:
http://my.opera.com/theresainnamibia/blog/2009/05/15/new-sponsorships-needed-neue-paten-gesucht
http://my.opera.com/TheResa75/blog/2009/05/16/peace-chain
http://my.opera.com/norfrid/blog/chain-for-peace-in-the-world
http://my.opera.com/Arnekrilu/blog/2009/05/20/tolerance-love-and-peace
http://my.opera.com/noah%20counte/blog/2009/05/25/peace-chain?cid=7754719#comment7754719
here's a special poem by vaia.
http://my.opera.com/ellinidata/blog/2009/05/29/teen-joins-the-peace-chain?cid=7788971#comment7788971
a lovely young lady named anna posted on peace. good history lesson… :happy:
http://my.opera.com/norskblu/blog/2009/07/01/chain-of-peace
here's a new one:
http://my.opera.com/edaniela/blog/show.dml/4167202
and another:
http://my.opera.com/daxonmacs/blog/2009/09/05/ordinary-flowers-extraordinary-people
and here's pam, joining the chain.
http://my.opera.com/PainterWoman/blog/2009/09/11/peace-chain-continues-2
another link in the chain: malina
http://my.opera.com/malina007/blog/2009/09/15/peace-from-claude-blog
http://my.opera.com/Changing_woman/blog/show.dml/4386032
And:
summer:
http://my.opera.com/SummerAngel/blog/2009/09/28/come-on-and-join-the-peace-train
olga has joined the peace chain:
http://my.opera.com/Olgita/blog/2009/12/22/chain-for-peace-in-the-world
thanks david :up:
Hi Scott,Please, please, view the two-hour video in my last post. It is the most important commentary on the human condition ever produced. As responsible humans, we must promote the concepts introduced by the 'Venus Project' to as many people as possible. 🙂 For others to see it now, here is the link:http://my.opera.com/Ravo/blog/
Amen! That's what I wanted to do using my blog but people like Icarus don't want that to happen.
You're welcome! I hope I didn't misuse the privilege of posting a comment here….:)
meli,we have to stop losing our spines to save our necks! when our leaders and religious groups realize the loss and the destruction they bring on earth we might stop seeing the butchered kids, the tears of mothers shed,and the devastation of fathers…it is our family that is getting killed out there "the human family" and we are just spectators……peace in our hearts, peace in our minds and not only in words but in actions :heart:thanks for sharing !
ain't that the truth
Your words are as true as they ever were. Can't be repeated enough – even if they are constantly ridiculed.Choose peace. It can be done.
I found this on the Web:« L’Amour est le fondement du monde. Où il a l’amour, il y a la paix, là où il y a égoïsme il y a misère et souffrance. Apprenez de Mère Nature qui donne d’Elle-même, même si elle est exploitée par l’homme. Faites de bonnes actions et considérez les êtres comme les enfants de la Mère Divine. » AmmaEnglish translation:"Love is the foundation of the world. Where LOVE is Peace is, where selfishness is, misery and suffering are. Learn from Mother Nature that it gives all, even if it is exploited by man. Do good deeds and consider human beings as children of the Divine Mother." AmmaThank you very much Scott 🙂 You make me happy :happy:
It's too bad all the world's religious and political leaders don't have blogs. I was called stupid for saying that once but maybe they could see and read that the majority of us are all the same. A simple fix perhaps but maybe simplicity is the key. It's the few who are power hungry that run everything and they are the ones who don't have the time to really talk to the people……us.
Nice words Matthew :up:Did you see the film "The Peaceful warrior"?
“There is no way to peace, peace is the way.” – A.J. MusteI think the same can be said for love. And has been eloquently stated above, one has to find both peace and love within one's self. If you can't love yourself, you can't share love. If you aren't at peace, then you spread discord.Nice post, Scott.
Pam and Matthew, you're welcome to join the chain for Peace :)Thanks Scott 🙂
claude, i expect this chain will grow exponentially. :happy: i will keep adding new links.
live and let live, right? thanks all for commenting. "what then must we do?" (from "the year of living dangerously")
I will follow with next new post from a PC.
Super! :up: You know what? 😆 I dream that all systems blogs will follow us in a such way that our politicians, bankers, businessmen start to open their eyes! 🙄 Why not?Maybe there's something to do more in our post?!
🙂 Wonderful post!Thank you for posting my link!:)
Isn't 'peace' another empty word?Anyways, keep faith 🙂
:)Faith makes all things possible…love makes all things easy!
🙂
Peace can be an empty word :yes: It depends on who! 😉
True that, Claude.
please exist actively changing everything. Peace. that's not an empty word. :happy:
Rosy have joined us, Scott 🙂http://my.opera.com/solzinho/blog/2009/05/14/paz-para-a-raAnd thanks to you I discover the one of Yulenka :eyes: 🙂
Very beautiful post 🙂 Thank you for the link :yes:
Liu joined us with a post on beauty:http://my.opera.com/%20Liu/blog/2009/05/14/beauty-is-around-everywhere
Maravilhoso, amei seu blog, esplendido. :)Seja bem-vindoWelcomeAbraçosRosy
hi kim, thanks for the support. :heart:welcome virgilia :happy:thanks for coming villain :happy:hi simone :smile:thanks very much for your comment rosy :smile:claude, this chain is cool. at least it's a list of people who care. :up:and now i know how to say marvelous in brazilian and esplendido = splendid, no? that's an easy language. i'm guessing abracos is hugs.abracos to you all. :heart:
You know, the fact I think something else doesn't refrain me from getting to know different points of view 🙂
that's a good attitude i think. stay open. we mustn't crystallize our opinions. that would be a disservice to our intelligence. :happy:
True. That would be a disgrace 🙂
You're so right!!!Thanks!
also, finding peace in one's being which is permanent has nothing to do with all those opinions. i can only work on myself. if i succeed, it will be a little help.welcome theresa, thanks for the affirmation. :happy:
that's why they call us dreamers. and marchers. although there is not enough marching in the u.s.a. now.propaganda rules. the poor are vilified. the ancient ones are neglected. traditions are dying. history is a story of crimes. we are killing the earth. what can we do?
Great post so far, Scott! The contradiction -if I may- is in the Comments under average Newspaper articles about Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Sudan, Caucasus, etc. http://weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/503opswv.asphttp://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0509/CIA_rejects_Cheney_declassification_request.htmlAnd this could be prolonged endlessly…http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8052999.stm together with this, if you are unfamiliar with the BBC ways:http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?forumID=6444&edition=2&ttl=20090516212858It is a ridiculous war tone and talk about 'criminals' that allegedly threaten 'our security'. I very well know who these criminals are! They have made themselves untouchable, unless we switch off the lights for them. Until then we can only dream about peace on Earth…:whistle:
But we are Nature as well. We are not separate.As for me, the nice option is colonisation – if we don't find a nice place to live in the next few hundred years, we may have serious problems (mainly with overpopulation).
… read about the French Revolution, for instance? Or wait until Nature takes revenge. We are out of equilibrium, economically, socially, mentally. Nature seeks equilibrium and will compensate with or without CO2, active denial systems, DynCorp and Blackwater or some burka.
Maybe we will (re)unite when they land…?
😀 :wine:
Scott, I have added this blog post for the chain:http://my.opera.com/TheResa75/blog/2009/05/16/peace-chainand here her work for Namibia people:http://my.opera.com/theresainnamibia/blog/2009/05/15/new-sponsorships-needed-neue-paten-gesucht
Perfect! @ Prophetone – amen. I believe.@ nepmak – you are absolutely right! That's what I say – think about your actions, about bringing respect, love and peace in your direct relations, in your environment, because you can change only this part of the world. Unfortunately, due to many sociolinguistic reasons, we are not able to spread our peaceful propaganda thorough the world.Thank God, actually, that would be terrible to make people think the same, even if the reasons were noble 🙂
I'll quote this guy, Noah Counte:"If you can't love yourself, you can't share love. If you aren't at peace, then you spread discord."I'll even do better than quoting, I'll say 'Amen!' to that statement above.In church I do not use that phrase 'amen' but I think it is Ok here at your corner, Scott??:whistle:
@villain Yes, that is what -I think- we all here think: we are part of this Universe, hence part of this Nature. But Nature also interacts with us. Quantum physics may demonstrate the very subtle ways Nature does this. Then our 'world' is a world of make-belief: possibly some sort of hologram that we shape ourselves. A self-fulfilling dream so to say. Could we bring everybody to the same positive, respectful and responsible thinking that would change the world. At this moment we live in an epoch of greed and lies, a time about 'more' and 'have'. When we moderate this thinking we would find peace in ourselves and less nervousness or stress. Less stressed by "musts". There is nobody waiting should you die – so you must not. If we feel good the world around us starts changing. We must relax first, find satisfaction in the answering of "do I really need that?" Do you really need that third car? The latter being the way my wife and I educate(d) our children and a grandchild. When you really need it, you'll get it. But test yourself and think twice! Things can wait as well.WE make OUR world, good question: what to do with the rest?:cool:
i think it's much simpler. "do unto others as you would have them do unto you." amen is good here @prophetone. this can be done right away and from now on. if we really wish for the common good of all mankind now and forever. then if we make our world with our imaginations, the world will gradually change for the better. what can i say, it's the kali yuga we are in. the raja yuga will have no lies or selfishness. the human race is in a perfect position to end disease and war right now.@villain yes. colonization is obvious. but there's plenty of room still on the earth if people would just get out of the cities.thanks dr. kampen for the words and the picture. what is it? i do hope we don't have to experience our own 'terror' though. so many innocent people get killed when the revolutionaries get in the habit of lopping off heads. as for me, i always knew i was destined to be killed by a stray bullet. i don't mind. at least it will be quick. ok claude thanks. i was browsing teresa's blog earlier. i will add it after i go and read it. :happy:
He, he!! U R funny, man!!:lol: :up:
My answer is: tear Genesis 3 verse 19 out of the Bible to begin with. That would be a major step forward! Teach children at schools self-responsibility. their parents don't know that concept believing in the necessity of The State (for expensive 'benefits' and the luxury to be part of that scam). Get rid of 'proxy money' as we know it, it's worthless as we can see, just printed paper for which you can loose your house. Give every sane group of cooperating individuals over the age 32 one single 5 kiloton nuke just in case of. Forbid NGO's and other 'relief workers' to operate outside their own hometowns. And let us enjoy a cosy afternoon in some bar talking about God and world, while our wives clean up the house and take care of the kids again…:yikes: :worried: :irked: :insane: :chef:
I thought you would have asked: why age 32? 😆 😆 😆
Well I just turned 50 – perhaps I need 10 kiloton nuke, I mean…just in case?:rolleyes: :whistle: 🙄
Do you really think we'd unite when they land? Have you never heard abou Star Wars?😆
I think, nepmak, you put to much ideology into your thinking 🙂 Remember, you can't make people think exactly the way you think 🙂 whatever if would be – regardless of the noble reasons – that would be a kind of rape on their minds 🙂
@prophetone: No, the chance of frustrated, more elderly people getting Alzheimer or a heart attack (always) causing personality changes (see Cheney), is far too high. One could start allowing the elderly to grow their own crops, go fishing all day, herd some sheep or watch TV in that cosy bar to discuss God. For instance… 😉 What I intended to say is that warfare using immature and sexually overhyped kids of both sexes (of course intended as such) is immoral and causing the excesses we do see day in and day out for no purpose or reason at all. But give a young father (at 32 most have started their families or ought to do so) a nuke (in my Gedankenspiel) and see the fear of using it and killing his and other families… Except perhaps the 0.5% of idiots that always are the ornaments of a society. To identify them and protect against themselves is one thing. Give them a portable phone instead and an iPod!@..namibia: I've written about that many times. An interstellar society capable of reaching our planet is necessarily ahead of us. They would probably see us like we saw the first aborigines at best, if not as cows in our meadow. See how colonial powers at the beginning of the 20th century dealt with primitive tribes to know what fate awaits us. Countering them with our weaponry would be laughable from the onset. I believe that H.G. Wells has properly depicted the these and antithese of such encounters! But Wells saw far more than that. I don't share most of his ideas though, but some of them were visionary.:chef:
Scott, we now have Glyn in the chain 🙂http://my.opera.com/robertsglyn1/blog/show.dml/3256797
@villain: I agree with that. That is NOT what I envision though. I see it exactly like Scott's: we need a multiculti colorful society with a variety of opinions and a lot of creativity. :yes:
Yup. As long as those multicultural societies WANT to be multicultural 🙂
Most pretend it to be. I am Dutch and have seen the 'shift' from tolerant to intolerant, when 'the others' just appeared to be that!:chef:
I've said it before: U R a very funny man! And U don't like:"bad company and humourless women"!!!!??? He, he, he…:lol: 😆 😆
Thanks for the compliment. Scott isn't that bad… and you have a great sense of humor. The point I tried to make is, that many of us are islanders. Unwilling (and that is the point) to adapt, to respect, to move up a millimeter or more to others opinions or life styles. That is what I observed in great detail in Holland the last 15 years. The necessary influx of North-African and Turkish workers (to keep the 'from cradle to grave' social benefits system going) wasn't accompanied by the will to understanding new environments (from both sides). Walking over a windy and rainy street in The Hague in hijab was found provocative by many Dutch folks, whereas the behavior of Dutch women was found too frivolous for the other groups. The consequential lack of communications did the rest, particularly when surfaced that the usually 'secular' Dutch suddenly wanted to protect their 'Christian values' of which I personally noticed nothing the last 60 years… The others did the same! That's the way to build a peaceful, new society – but I am lying now.:irked:
That's it – I don't think most of us (not 'the society', I hate this word, is like saying 'they' instead of 'us' and we make society as well, sorry for OT) is ready for multicultural life.I personally believe unity is unity, but there must be also place for separation and national aspect: when I visit other countries I try to behave as a guest, politely and not so demanding as I can be in Poland… and I've never had problems as a visitor – yet people coming from different countries, not knowing the language and demanding all the privileges are quite pissing me off.Like, let's not look far from myself – too many Polish immigrants. Shish:/
Sometimes I'm lost in all of your fine vocabulary and perhaps miss your real point that U wanna give, but U still give me some good morning laughs and as I work nighttime I always wake up about this time in the day – in very good mood!:) 😆 🙂 OR..perhaps I've become a cynic?:right:
You know you became a cynic when your mother after 20 years spent together says 'My child, your cynism is killing me' 🙂 At least i knew 😉
Let me try some more fine vocabulary: 'society' is 'us' plus the distortion/behavioral adaptation 'we' (must) make amongst the 'crowd'. Let's be sensitive for that phenomenon when talking 'peace'. The sum of all our individual good will is far more than the total of good will expressed by any 'society'. The smallest common denominator determines attitudes. Best example: the U-turn from President Obama on torture and happenings in (secret) prisoner's of war camps. HE wanted to move forward and clean the mess. His Umfeld (generals, party members, certain media) influenced, if not forced, his 'good will' and stance into a behavioral escape saying that 'purifying from sins' would jeopardize national security and safety of Americans abroad… Hence changing nothing, but making things in fact worse: the presidential wavering. Can 'we' trust him? Or does he change heart another time? Dare and can you freely speak out in public what you tell at the bar?! That is what I meant with 'society'…
The New Dollar?
:chef:
Great, nepmak, that's a nice explanation. Really. And I quite agree with the example, but I don't think they are matching each other. Probably this is the result of my belief in so called conspiracy theories :)Nevertheless, as you say 'The smallest common denominator determines attitudes' is a perfect explanation for a manipulative techniques performed on us all the time.
this is really just an aside. barak obama is on record at least stating his reluctance to persecute or prosecute. that shows his objectivity. he can easily see, as i even can, the quagmire which awaits us if we go against the stream of time. but he abjures the tendency of leaders to dictate. that's not wavering in his opinion.so anyway, that's the problem with democracy, or any present day government for that matter. majority rules. committee decisions based on a consensus of broken brains driven by fear and greed will always take the low road.we are just spectators of what the hindu tradition calls 'prakriti' the seemingly stronger force of random nature firing off mechanically. mankind has always pitted his rare intelligences and intuition against chaos with intentional wisdom and a good plan. common sense says what priorities to work on, then everything happens willy nilly. the illusion that we can control anything is deep- seated. the only element anyone has at least the potential to control, provided he has a developed 'will', is his own actions. if he simply does no harm he is helping the whole world to come to its senses. :happy:and finally, dodging the temptation to cynicism,one could act in everything according to his natural conscience. anyone can do that. they just don't heed conscience because conscience is only a whisper in an ear crowded with shouting urgencies, fears and desires produced in us all automatically. no-one is free… none… personne. plus everyone thinks they are the hero in the story of the world and that just simply drives everyone to despair and insanity. :faint:
Wise words Scott – it's up to US, i.e. you, me and perhaps some 'lamppost'?:D "The root of nature" (mula & devi) prakriti / purusha ought to be a guide for us.
For those not familiar with those concepts.
:chef:
nice chart john, thanks. :up: you will find me on it somewhere swimming upstream 😎
Haha, I am still gazing at it… :yes:
Now, I do not believe I'm a hero of the story since I'm a clear villain 😉 Barack's just a human being, a man, and is prone to manipulation, so don't cross your brigdes before you come to them 😉 Let's talk about him and what he's done in the next couple of years – now I've seen him only promising and that's too little.Well, at least he has Joe Biden, so American politics didn't lose its touch of humour ;)Unfortunately, the root of nature doesn't speak to me – I am a simple woman of simple tastes and truly believe in the meaning of life according to Monty Python 😉 it was pretty much the same, but much funnier 😉
About Theresa and the Namibia's families, she also have her post for peace here: http://my.opera.com/TheResa75/blog/2009/05/16/peace-chain 🙂
that's o.k.. we will wait and see. a critical mind is a terrible thing to waste or to hide from the world. you have a valid opinion there villain. though i don't see any villainy in it. :happy:some people see the glass is half full. objectively, the glass is just too big. :chuckle: i know, i know, i know there is no chuckle guy.
Is that like the military base area 51 in Nevada? In Namibia, they didn't wrote that they will shoot everybody who entering in the diamond area 🙄
The last time I tried to enter Namibia our car was followed by a helicopter… Diamonds are forever, ain't it?
:knight:
Thank you, Scott. I call myself a villain because after an introduction like that I cannot actually disappoint you 🙂
thanks claude… i'll add that one too.john, i don't think after reading a sign like that that it would even be wise to continue to agate beach. i would just turn around and visit some other landmark. :smile:villain, good explanation. you are an exception to the rule. i had gravitated towards kind of ignoring people who chose dark names. like predator or evildor, darkangel. the 'camp' cuteness of the 'darkside' doesn't interest me. i know you are not a villain and don't intend to be a scoundrel. :sherlock:
Thanks Nepmak! Money, diamonds, etc. and even now water are the tools of power and that kind of power doesn't help the peace…
Diamonds? http://projects.exeter.ac.uk/RDavies/arian/scandals/diamonds.html
Ah, but I wouldn't mind a couple of friendly diamonds :)And I am a villain, in a way. I hurt people (more than I intend), I make them cry just because I choose the words I know are painful, I manipulate people… and the funniest thing is they know I warned them before :)Scoundrels are cheap, evildoers are naive, I am a villain because our world lacks classy villains 🙂 like Captain Hook, for example 🙂
oh. i understand perfectly. :happy: i am peter pan. 😆
L'eau… haha…, we are fish swimming in a sea of water without knowing it. That just do the Chinese selling AIR2WATER machines everywhere for 'people in the know'! Jank open that fridge door to see ice against the inside walls… > water from the air! (Don't drink that -it must be processed (purified, cleaned) first). Made in China for personal usage.
@namibia we never arrived really because we got technical problems with the car. At 85F we were advised to stay inside the car and set not one foot outside until a repair crew had arrived (which took hours). After that we desired to return to SA and let the diamonds next to us in the sand… That's how that story came to an end.
:chef: :coffee:
Oh. Scott 🙂 I think I'm beginning to like you.I really am 🙂
john that is fantastic. i look forward to hearing more about the water from air machine. :happy: we could use that in los angeles. or about a thousand of them.this entry in comments may be germane to the peace on earth topic. because a lot of the problems between people and land has to do with water and fighting over the rights.mona, now that is very gratifying. thank you. :up: is it alright to call you mona ? or do you prefer to remain villainously anonymous? 🙂
http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/101057059/Big_Blue_2000_Air2water_Generator.htmlThat machine is for a small community delivering about 5.000 liters of water/24 hrs.Enough for drinking and using it in the kitchen (particularly when a small community has one larger kitchen and eats together in a mensa). You must import them from China or Malaysia to save bundles of money. Divide the prices I found in the US by 1/3 !!!BUT the bottomline: tapwater is the next commodity like oil or gas, if we don't take care and have ourselves fooled again in the belief water is rare… We are FISHES! What happens when we dry out!!Food and water, nowadays also industrial resources, always have been the apex of warfare. :knight: :knight: :knight: :knight: :knight: :knight: :chef: :troll:
Do you use those water generator, Nepmak?
Call me John, H-C. No, we don't use an Air2Water machine lacking the need of it. This is due to our peculiar terrain situation near the foot of the Sierra de Baza and along a natural water resource coming from that mountain ridge. Aside from that there is a practicle 'problem': elevation (about 1800 feet) and desert-like micro-climate with very dry air (<35% humidity except Winters). Here these machines require more electrical energy (due to lower air pressure) to offer far less water from air (by lack of humidity). These are things one needs to consider beforehand. The reason to go and live here was… water! We lived at the Spanish costas near Valencia where at least 3 months per year there was no drinkwater at all. Unfortunately the (former Aznar) government took a series of very bad decisions under pressure of crusted and backwards Spanish industries to implement ancient water purification practices and allowing the agriculture sector to continue likewise archaic water distribution practices leading to the loss of most groundwater and lack of tapwater. This false political opportunism by lobbying from ignorants now breaks the neck of Spanish glasshouse concentrations near Almeria and Murcia, where terrains are turning into deserts, apart from demonstrating the absolute lack of knowledge about modern technology at governmental and managerial levels in that country! A sad story indeed about missed opportunities. Instead one furthered windmills for electricity, bringing nothing at all except high costs. It contributes to the economic crash Spain faces these days and dissatisfaction amongst the population by high levels of unemployment. :worried:
That's the same everywhere John, not only in Spain. Our governments are like blinds. In France we have some scientists like Albert Jacquard who is famous but he also preaches in the desert as we say… Politicians and industrials seem to don't want changing anything because of some selfish money. And now in France, politicians have changed the money source for scientific research: money doesn't came from taxes (from us people) but from industries, so now scientists have to be profitable for money. Are we in democracy? No we aren't. Politicians are the puppets of some rich industrialists or bankers.Did you saw the air compressed car?http://www.mdi.lu/english/Claude
@namibiaI know, I'm a bit late… Where did you try to enter Namibia, nepmark?And sorry to disappoint you: we went to Lüderitz and Kolmanskop, but didn't see any diamonds in the sand :irked: But my projects are way up North, anyway, almost in Angola, where everything is more "African".@scottThank you for the introducing sentence above the link! :love:
We came from CapeTown and went all the way up touring with a group on a reconnaissance mission for homes, not diamonds. 😀
Yes, I have seen this air compressed car indeed. It let me to write about fuel efficient and other vehicles some time ago in my blog. The hot air engine also is an alternative and… I jumped for joy this morning hearing that Mercedes had adopted Tesla cars!!! That may be their best buy ever in half a century… Now the prices down and we're there.Yes, let's forget 'democracy' which is just another word for 'kleptocracy', a sectarian cult from 400 years ago that can't be weeded out, it seems.:yuck:
Tesla cars? Is there any link with Nikola Tesla's work?The Tesla cars are electric but the needed batteries contain some chemical materials I think and they are a pollutant…http://www.teslamotors.com/Nikola Tesla:
It is just the name. Yes, your old Coca Cola tincans are used for the batteries, perfect example of recycling?:yes:
So there isn't any pollutant in the batteries?
@claude: 😆 Let's make peace on that one…:D 😉 :p
Villain Good choice!http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/
@ Scott: Mona is OK, my Christian name is Monika, but people call me Mona :)@ John: I absolutely agree with your statement concerning democracy.And when it comes to cars – I would love to see popularity of Honda FCX Clarity. It looks pretty promising 🙂
Yup, I know 🙂 And unlike most of eco-cars it actually looks nice 😉
Scott 🙂 2 new posts for the Peace chain :hat:http://my.opera.com/norfrid/blog/chain-for-peace-in-the-worldhttp://my.opera.com/Arnekrilu/blog/2009/05/20/tolerance-love-and-peaceHope you are well ! 🙂
Claude: I bought "The Peaceful Warrior" on your recommendation. I haven't watched it yet, but I have it on good authority that the book was stellar.I have a link for your Peace Chain in the works, but I'm having trouble with it. I'll let you know when i post it.
@claude… done. keep 'em coming. at least we are engaging the question, "is peace possible?" and what will it take? i, of course, being a natural born pacifist, encourage a revolution without any violence at all.i'll be watching the progress of muhammad yunus, author of "creating a world without poverty" yunnus received the nobel peace prize a couple of years ago.matthew, i am looking forward to your take on the issue. :happy:
OK that's very fine Matthew 🙂 I'm waitting. I hope that the film will please to you 🙂
About Dr. Yunnus this interview is tmho quite revealing:http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,583366,00.html (in english).and the anti-thesis here:http://www.mises.org/story/2375 (Jeff is often said to be rightwing, but he is tmho a libertarian instead. The error in his account is "high interest" which is a pertinent false interpretation of Islamic banking, sharing losses or gains over real world goods and services – Islam doesn't allow interest and doesn't allow speculation).I agree with Jeff's stance: … echo chamber of hurrahs. Tmho while Western ideologists fail to have the slightest idea of how the Islamic world really works. Aside from that, we know the standing of the Nobel Prize. The economic laureates nearly all appeared or were exposed to be crackpots. That prize is a political joke.Revolutions without violence unfortunately don't exist. Even the SA 'revolution' was violent and took many years. Changing the balance between political parties is no revolution – the same old mob and thieves pop up again. Were they removed forever and not heard from anymore, than we could claim a 'revolution'. Maybe we'll see a revolution in Europe after the June elections for an EU parliament when turn-out in percentages will be very low (<60%) and people chosing extreme parties, left and right, as a consequence of political disasters without end in France, Italy and above all Britain. What has happened there could just set the stage for unpleasant consequences…Peace still has to wait, I fear. :coffee:
i know, ed, but it's hard on children's arms.
no, ed, thank you for dropping in and giving me something to cut my teeth on. :coffee: i'm serving 'red eyes' to all my friends. nothing like good beans ground fresh… a pot of 'french press' with a shot of espresso.
"The economic laureates nearly all appeared or were exposed to be crackpots. That prize is a political joke." but yunus…he won the prize for peace not economics so a consensus must have seen the connection of helping third world countries to independent and adequate living conditions as a help to world peace. thanks for the links. the interview was very helpful for me to understand better what yunus is doing.from the article:"Muhammad Yunus says that profit should not be the only reason that businesses exist."the other article (mises.org)wow, that argument against grameen bank and yunus was a wee bit enlightening. oh well, back to the drawing board. color me naive. especailly the sixteen conditions. i thought that yunus being muslim was lending at no interest.
Well you know what they say — whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
Well now wait a minute, folks. Let's examine this a minute.Peace is kinda boring, really. War has a serious intensity to it. It's interesting. It's interesting if you are the observer and its even more interesting if you are on the front lines. Of course there's that whole death thing to consider. But that's going to happen to everybody anyway. And war makes for some great sections in the history books. Alexander's seige of Tyre? Wow, now that's a great story. You'd have a tough time finding a story that good in fiction I dare say. War. I'm for it.
ed, you are in a funny mood today. :coffee:
Funny mood. Thanks for being gracious! :up: 😀
War can be against our inner fears 💡 No need to be outside. Sculpting ourselves to become more expressive, more artists, more gentle, etc. isn't boring at all!Did you see the film "The groundhog day"? 😉
yeah, "groundhog day" was enlightening. the final point being. "pay it forward" or something like karma. good karma is good for the karmaologist. (made that one up.)i like the use of the word sculpting for growth of being. it is the most interesting aspect of human existence in that we can change. but we have to really want to. that's what i think. :happy: also, we have to self-study… to know what to change and what can't be changed. attitudes can be changed, but it takes a long time. and finally we have to begin with small things.like gentleness, creative impulses becoming realities instead of just in the head. good tack claude.
Enjoy! :up:
I can understand what Ed think about war. When I was young I have played war with toys and I can see now my soon also playing war… I think when boys are young, they are looking for strength and weapons is an easy image of strength… Strength is a nice quality… when it helps 🙂
That's pretty sexist, you know, Claude 😉 I've played wargames since I was 5. Which makes almost 22 years, geez :)Anyways, I think Ed tries to put a little bit of healthy flame 😀 And yup, they say – whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger… but, on the other hand, whatever kills you makes you dead.
sure it's natural to play games which develop our instincts. unfortunately, or luckily, i'm not sure, the 'id' (freud), runs shit in the unconscious. it's a powerful driver working in the dark. it pushes buttons like rage, kill,run and fuck. you could call it the default. civilized behavior is like 'programs'. programs can be modified to adapt to new conditions. hmmm this could be a whole essay. better stop. 🙂
It isn't sexist, Mona 😉 You're a special woman you know 😆
you're both special to me. bon nuit mes amis :heart:
Have a good night Mona :zzz:
Have a good night. You're special too, you know 😉
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Dobranoc :)Bon nuit :)Good night :)The whole discussion. It was good as I could meet you 🙂
I know. But in this case, I'm not the only one 🙂 Though I've played mainly with guys, true that.The first co-player of mine was my Dad :)Well, I love RPGs, so you know…. 🙂
OK I see now 😉
You're most welcome 😉
je vous en remercie mona. 😎
Bonne nuit 🙂
😮 thank you for adding my daughters' poem too meli,peace
my honor meli, :heart: she deserves to be heard. :happy:
Hello Scott 🙂 Hope you're going well :)Would you please read the last comments on the Glyn's post. I would like to have your advice about:http://my.opera.com/robertsglyn1/blog/show.dml/3256797Thank you :)Also you can now add the Peace dove in the right bottom of your blog. Have a look on my updated Peace chain post 🙂
o.k. claude. will do. 🙂
As you feel 🙂 Thanks!
the best thing at http://www.peace.ca is at the end…"The U.N. needs to adopt a "bill of rights" for nations. " all the rest is clear and thorough thinking, but where to start.get appointed to the u.n. if you are capable of oratory. then propose a world bill of rights be written.gnarly questions are along the lines of, if chaos and murder is taking place within a country. do the world police intervene?http://www.peace.ca/worldpeace.htm
Do you think the Peace chain can act for a bill of rights in a way?
Yesterday I read an interview with a Polish musician, Lech Janerka. He was asked about possibility of making peace, changing world by music. He said 'It is impossible, otherwise we would have worldwide peace after JS Bach'.Just posting it, because it overlaps with the topic.Cheers 🙂
You're right Scott, but the Peace chain is now as small as a seed. We have to be good gardeners and patient. :)@Angeliki: Hallelujah! :lol:Great picture :up:
claude, the peace chain is a voice. we may as well write a bill of rights for the people of earth. why not? :up: then send it to the secretary of the united nations and see if they respond. :happy:humans are not just an animal to be killed and forgotten. we should all be allowed to live to our natural term of life. that is the first spiritual right. no government or organization should have the right to torture or take another life.
@mona,but bach and art as a whole are life-enhancing. they give people a scale of emotional impressions which develop their peaceful sides. so, i wouldn't say impossible.meli :heart: it's a beautiful dove. and there's always room for color on my page. :happy:@claude, you know what they say about seeds…. out of a tiny acorn the mighty oak will grow. anyway, raising consciousness on any scale is a step in the right direction; better than just sitting back and watching the world go to hell.
Amen!
PSmeli I added a little color above if it is OK with you,if not please feel free to remove,I believe there is good on earth and we all united we can bring it out in others too… positive thinking and united actions will make the difference 🙂
"Humans are not just an animal to be killed and forgotten. we should all be allowed to live to our natural term of life. that is the first spiritual right. no government or organization should have the right to torture or take another life."How I agree, Scott. Sign me up for that one. But what to do against the death penalty, systems of justice based on revenge and other 'civilized' institutions and traditions?:worried:
Yes that's better 🙂
well, the logical argument is easy and simple. if it's wrong for anyone to kill someone, it's wrong.the government says it has a good reason to kill. what's the difference? the guy who killed and is now to be executed for doing it had a good reason too, he thought.it gets mixed up with arguments about housing and feeding a life imprisonment criminal at $30,000 a year. my idea would be to give them an island. they can farm together or kill each other whatever they like. this is not thoroughly thought out yet…. 😆
i was going to say the moon. it's cheaper. :beer:
We could send them to Mars as well. The British sent their crimals to Oz many centuries ago, the Germans to America…haha… Why not us sending them to 'where nobody has ever gone before?':cheers:
:up: yes make love not war.
Mucho amor, si ! Todos los días !:yikes: :ko: :faint:
http://williamahuston.blogspot.com/2008/08/what-nvc-isnt-compiled-by-bill-huston.htmlIf you wish a more practicable shortcut to NVC 🙂
Scott, do you know the work of Marshall Rosenberg?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Rosenberg 🙂
i see, john. that's a very thought provoking list. i see also that people, even myself, ARE like that. the right side of the chart. it would be good to start with just one small thing like apologizing all the time or, the monologue running on of the mouth in isolation. i catch myself doing that. thanks for the link :happy:
not until now, claude. he sounds like he is reading my mind though. those are exactly the ideas i have espoused naturally.
Yes that's very interesting 🙂
Yes, we could try and start from there, Scott and Claude…It's a good idea beyond doubt.:up:
it's very nice. and it's very crisp. mais, quelle dommage. mon francais est deplorable.
I'm working on a new blog post for starting a Peace chain on WordPress blogs. It will be here and in French:http://claudeholdowicz.wordpress.com/
Like my English 😆 C'est pareil pour mon Anglais ! (Here is 5:56 AM)
early bird aren't you, my friend. but je crois que tu parle anglais plus courament que je parle francais… c'est vrais.i would do so much better if i just had my trusty petite larousse.
Il y a aussi : http://translate.google.com/ ça aide ;)"N'es-tu pas un oiseau du matin, mon ami. Mais je crois que tu parles anglais plus couramment que je parle français… C'est vrai". :up: Almost all is correct ⭐
i've never tried that google translate. but i will when i am home. a ce moment je suis dans la maison de mon amis mitchell ryan. il y a dans switzerland… je guarde la maison. je vois maintenant 'juliette of the spirits"… une grande cinema.there… i almost talked in french again. 😆 c'est tres dificile; aussie lentement. j'espere que je (could practice more often)
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Federico Fellini, I like his films. "En ce moment". "Il est en Suisse". "Je garde la maison". "Un grand cinéma". 🙂 "C'est très difficile, aussi lentement, j'espère que je pourrais pratiquer plus souvent"…
As long as we keep talking in a non-violent way, move towards each other in respect, ask questions when things aren't clear or misunderstood, assist each other, educate ourselves and learn to listen, learn about moderation and respect for good old values, there's nothing wrong and nothing to apologize for. It's not the language but the meaning and intentions that count. The rest is http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en#😀
The Peace chain is now lauched on WordPress (in French):http://claudeholdowicz.wordpress.com/2009/06/05/une-chaine-pour-la-paix-dans-le-monde/ :hat:Scott also have a look on this website: http://www.ocyc.co.uk/The "Media Player" page contains a song from this choir :up: They have sing for "Playing for Change":
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I was curious if I can find the Peace chain through Google, and I find this: http://www.peacechain.com/ ;)I can write to mister Joe Murphy, but something inside me said no because that website is here for business…Then I found also:http://www.peaceonearth.org.uk/http://www.banthebomb.org/newbombs/peacechain.htmhttp://www.fortnet.org/hr4peace/index.htmlhttp://pmanuelian.wordpress.com/2009/04/02/peace-chain-surrounds-the-khufu-pyramid/… 🙂
We got a new "Peace maker", Anna 😉http://my.opera.com/norskblu/blog/2009/07/01/chain-of-peace
A new contributor for the Peace chain 🙂http://my.opera.com/daxonmacs/blog/2009/09/05/ordinary-flowers-extraordinary-people
😆 That makes me happy! :hat:
Pam joined us :hat:http://my.opera.com/PainterWoman/blog/2009/09/11/peace-chain-continues-2
oh good for pam. i'll add her to our growing chain. :happy:
Hello Scott, Malina joined us :hat:http://my.opera.com/malina007/blog/2009/09/15/peace-from-claude-blogHope you're fine 🙂
i'm fine… will add malina :happy:
claude, thanks for the update.coincidentally, i just watched a demo of google's upcoming application "wave". soon it will be released to the public worldwide i assume. it's exactly what you need to notify everyone of a new blog post on peace.the only way i can think of now is to send an email to a list of our expanding peace chain. you are the hub. my email is I_ArtMan@operamail.comas you notify the rest of the chain, ask for their emails so you don't have to do them all one at a time. :happy:
Hello Scott :happy: Hope you're going well and paint a lot of beauties on canvas ;)Here are two new contributors for the Peace chain: :hat:http://my.opera.com/Changing_woman/blog/show.dml/4386032And:http://my.opera.com/SummerAngel/blog/2009/09/28/come-on-and-join-the-peace-trainIf you have an advice for me, it will be welcome 😉 = How can I manage to say "hey, there's a new one on the Peace chain here" to all the contributors and that they add the new link? For now, it's ok because we are a few… Maybe Matthew can help… :sherlock:
Good idea 🙂 And very simple :up: Thank you very much 🙂
glad to help in any way i can, mon ami :happy:
Merci Scott :happy:I hope we will meet once one day!
j'espere la meme chose, claude. il faut seulement que nous survivons. (just guessing) 😆
😆 I have a bit oil painting to do: 40F (100 x 81 cm). It's the first time for me a such size 🙂
39 feet o.m.g. :yikes: good luck man. i can't wait to see the result. :happy:
I have to reproduce this painting I did some years ago: In fact I want to make it better…I'm a bit affraid and don't know how to sart 😉
that's easy. make a grid. then draw a grid on the wall. with thin lines (a cartoon) transfer the images to scale. then with brushes make the improvements you envision as you go along. use sepia which is easily overpowered by any other color. then add color. renaissance technique. get the balance and the chiaroscuro first.since you have an oriental theme, use oriental brushes; large brushes first then the details, but let the strokes make the leaves on the bamboo. practice bamboo stems and leaves on a smaller scale first. :sherlock:
Good idea 🙂 I will follow your advice 🙂 Thanks ;)I would like to make more details and better characters because in big size I feel I can't have a such comics characters style…
exactly. that's a lot of space to fill. you will do fine. 🙂 another tip… use rollers to cover the whole space. big paint, then smaller areas of color with a big brush, then detail paint. structure… wish i could be there to help. :happy:
It could be very nice to have painting time together :up: :hat: Thanks again for your help Scott :up:
Hello Scott, I hope all is fine on your side :)After a search on Google about Woodstock, I found this that maybe will please to you:http://www.bergoiata.org/fe/woodstock/10.htmAnd maybe there're others good pictures on others pages. I just see now that I'm on the page number 10 😉
very good pictures. thanks claude. :happy: